This is a conversation that took place lately on the net between
one Egyptian free man and one American Emigrant who is living in
terror from the Jews .
Mr. Aravosis
I read what u wrote
"Contrary to popular opinion, the Palestinians are the luckiest
SOBs on earth. Why? Because if they were intentionally murdering
civilians in any country other than Israel, they'd have been
annihilated a long time ago." and u proceed in that
argument ...
Mr. Aravosis please let me educate you .
I think that either you do not understand , and this will make
you a stupid ignorant
Or you understand very well , but make believe you don't , and
this will make you a stupid liar .....
All the ignorant Americans like yourself , ( president Bush
included ) keep repeating that the Palestinians are murdering
Israelis civilians .
All of you ignorant have failed to ask yourselves the simple
question ....why is that the Palestinian do what they are doing
????
When you know the answer to that question you will know the
following two points which are so simple that you will be
ashamed of yourself not knowing it before .
1 : The Palestinians are killing Israelis the way they do,
because the Israelis are occupying their land.
2 : The dead Israelis are no civilians because all Israelis are
reservists under the direct order of the Chief of staff of the
Israelis army .
See how simple it is ...
All you needed was to think with your head , ....
Cherif Loutfi
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Aravosis
To: Cherif
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 4:37 AM
Subject: Re: Educate yourself
Cherif,
I've dealt with more than enough bigots from my own country, let
Allah deal with you.
JOHN
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John
Thanks for your answer
Cherif
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At 06:14 PM 4/14/2002 +0200, you wrote:
John
We Arabs are known for our generosity , so i cannot see you in
the dark about who are the Israelis and not try to help you
enlighten yourself.
I am attaching a site I made long long before that butcher
Sharon starts his criminal war .
http://www.cherifo.com/child.htm
hope u will have a minute to visit
Cherif
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Aravosis
To: Cherif
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: enlighten yourself
Cherif, that Web site is disgusting. Calling Hitler a "clever
man"? You do your people a great disservice by endorsing this
kind of bigotry, and implying that somehow this is what Arabs
believe.
JOHN
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At 06:48 PM 4/14/2002 +0200, you wrote:
John
I am so happy I disgusted you as you disgusted me with your
bullshit of writings ...
By the way your hair style is that of a Jew are you one ???
Cherif
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Aravosis
To: Cherif
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: enlighten yourself
Cherif,
You didn't disgust me. Actually, you didn't even surprise me.
Unfortunately, I'm accustomed to receiving emails from bigots
whose minds are still stuck in the 12th century.
As for being a Jew, I would be proud to be one. All the Jews I
know are incredibly smart, hard-working, and their men are
pretty hot to boot.
JOHN
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At 07:30 PM 4/14/2002 +0200, you wrote:
Ok john , let me ask you ....
In my site you did not see the murdered children , the
assassinated babies , the mutilated young Palestinians etc etc
....
What you saw , was only Hitler is a clever man .
I am sorry , Hitler was not a clever man he was an idiot ...you
know why ???
I 'll let you figure it out you smart Jew .
Cherif
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Aravosis
To: Cherif
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: enlighten yourself
Cherif,
Palestinians think it's ok to murder Israeli children, and now
you want me to feel sorry for Palestinian children? I'm sorry, I
feel sorry for all children, but the Arabs shouldn't embrace
terrorism if they don't want the same technique used on them.
As for my reaction to you overall, you're assumption that I'm "a
Jew" because I disagree with you is simply gross. In the West,
that kind of language is the mark of a bigot. I happen to be a
Greek Orthodox Christian, not that it's any of your business.
But if you want people to be more sympathetic to your cause,
don't start calling them names, and find a better Web site. It's
impossible so see the Hitler thing and then look at the rest of
the site with anything but contempt.
JOHN
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----- Original Message -----
From: Cherif
To: John Aravosis
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: enlighten yourself
John
From your name Aravosis I knew you had Greek roots so YASSO
(Many Greeks lived and still live in Egypt )
I grew up with Jews in school I was in a French school , before
i go to Cairo University faculty of engineering , I am more
cultured and educated than thousands of Americans ..
What really astonish me is that you still repeat that the
Palestinians are terrorists .
No sir the Terrorists are the one who come and take your land
your home and kill your family .
In my first message I asked you to educate yourself . I think
you need to read about the murders of Sabra and Shatila where
Civilians (Children woman and old men ) were killed ( Author
Sharon and his Zionist gang )...If it is too far for you read
about Kana it is only a couple of years ago and ( Peres was the
author ) .
When we talk about Sharon we talk about a war criminal ...
It is useless to tell you about the atrocities the Jews have
made all over the fifty years of occupation here in this area
because you are more biased and more whatever you accuse me with
than I am ...
Me at least I am free ...But you ..you work for the Jews so I
understand .
Cherif
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----- Original Message -----
From: John Aravosis
To: Cherif
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 10:35 PM
Subject: Re: enlighten yourself
Okay Cherif,
1. What I said was that the Palestinians, and Arabs generally,
seem to think that killing civilians is a perfectly fine policy,
so long as it's not their civilians. That's hypocritical. If
you're going to support killing civilians in Israeli markets,
then you have to support it when it comes time for Arabs to die
too. That's what I said.
2. I know a lot about Sabra and Shatila and the Arab world, and
I know more about international relations and politics than you
ever will. I also know that the Arabs started 3 wars with
Israel, and that all the guys who flew planes into the World
Trade Center and the Pentagon were Arabs. So spare me the
innocent-Arab song. The Arabs have just as much soul searching
to do as the Jews.
3. If Sharon is a war criminal, so so are many Arabs, including
Arafat, and probably the entire village of Jenin, for supporting
attacks on Israeli civilians. You might be right, perhaps all of
you are criminals.
4. You're a bigot.
5. You live in a country where the leader isn't freely elected,
and in which you have no civil liberties nor a free press, and
an incredibly low standard of living and development. You don't
even know the meaning of freedom, and while others in the Arab
world, or the developing world, may fall for your crap,
Westerners aren't really quaking in their boots about how much
freer, developed, and well-educated the Egyptians are compared
to the rest of us.
Please don't contact me again. You have hate in your heart, and
as I said in my first email to you, you obviously deserve the
life you have.
JOHN
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John
I think at this point I have nothing more to tell you , but that
its weak people like you , who make this world BAD .
Although I know its useless , Please read this letter from an
Italian friend that lives in Sweden . I hope it will make you
jubilant.
.
Cherif
----- Original Message -----
From: Perry Marchese
To: Cherif
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 12:19 AM
Subject: I just couldn't
Hi Cherif;
I realized that on RAI 1 a special program dedicated on Jenin
was suddenly to be sent, instead of the planned program. I just
couldn't miss it, so I drove back from the Chalet,
(Silvia thinks that I am crazy to drive back and forward) in
order to see it.
Ya Cherif, the Israeli made a mess! a true blood bad!
Some Italians from the Press, cameramen and journalists managed
to get into Jenin. They literally felt sick to see the
carnage...
According to women interviewed in Jenin, bulldozers were working
day & night to cover the casualties under the ruble of some 250
houses.
The Press filmed bodies more or less intact, burned ones, parts
of bodies scattered around the streets and in the rubble, even
animals were not spared.
I don't have words to explain, not even the reporters had, in
fact they said:
"This pictures and film sequences speak best for themselves..."
A couple of journalist were spotted by the Israeli soldiers,
they had to leave all their equipment behind, still they were
happy to get out alive.
Cherif, the carnage was beyond my imagination, to the point that
for a moment I thought
that perhaps Hitler knew something that we didn't know. I almost
ashamed to write these
words but it is true, and it is exactly what I thought.
I'm raged, that's not perhaps the real term to describe my
feelings right now, at this very moment I think I could murder a
Jew, just because he is a Jew.
Normally I am a peaceful man and I hate violence, but enough is
enough even for myself.
Today Israel announced, that on of the top man of Al Aqsa named
Nasser Oweiss,
was held as a prisoner. Notice, that this man was recently
declared dead!
The death cause was: "Blew himself by error while assembling an
explosive device"
Now, we can all see once again how real and genuine the Israeli
Democratic Apparatus works and its production. Lyes, more lyes,
cover ups and denials.
Need I to say more?
I say: Long live President Arafat!
Perry
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To: Cherif
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 5:21 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: I just couldn't
I read the letter. Your friend is a bigot too.
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----- Original Message -----
From: Cherif
To: John Aravosis
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: I just couldn't
Hahahahahaha
you make me laugh , you have nothing in your vocabulary but the
word bigot.
This is my last message to you ,in which I will analyze what you
are .
You are a Zionist , I asked myself what make a Greek Orthodox
Christian , to become a Zionist , then when I read your answers
,I discovered a phrase I did not give any importance before
...the one you talk about the Jews and say " and their
men are pretty hot to boot.". I discovered at once that you are
a homosexual freak , and you are in love with a Jew .No other
reason would make you so involved with the Zionists Jews .
As for telling me that I deserve my life , well I sure deserve
it .I have a very good life and I am sure is much better than
yours .
I have two five rooms apartments in Cairo , I have a summer
house on the Mediterranean and another on the red sea. I have a
small boat on the red sea I have three cars ,I am enjoying my
life very much I have traveled to the four corners of the world
.So my life I thank Allah for giving it to me .
As for you my small Zionist its your life that you deserve I am
sure . its the life of the small reporter who work for the Jews
and live in misery sucking and licking their butts to be able to
survive .
You see how easy it is to analyze ones personality .
As for the Palestinian cause you are blind ,you don't see that
the whole world is against the Israelis Jews , all the
manifestations and the marches you don't see , you see only what
the Jews Zionists are wanting you to see .
I still say that Hitler is a good child compared to the butcher
war criminal Sharon ....And your friends the Jews will never
have a home or peace on this earth as long as they occupy a land
that is not theirs.
Cherif
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